What to do when no one supports your dreams

Raise your hand if you’ve ever shared something you were really excited about—something bold, soul-stirring, totally out-of-the-box—and someone responded with a big ol’ “Hmm… I hope that works out for you.”

Yeah. That one stings.

It’s wild how quickly one tiny comment can deflate your entire dream balloon.

Episode 8: When they deflate you like a balloon

How to Keep Going Anyway

Even if they mean well, those subtle jabs, sideways comments, or straight-up silence can wreck your momentum. This post is for the moments when your excitement feels crushed—and you're wondering if maybe you're being ridiculous for even trying.. you are NOT.

Why Your Dreams Feel So Fragile (at first)

When you get a “download” or intuitive nudge, it's yours. It was meant for you, not your neighbor, not your dad, not your best friend. So when you share it, and someone meets it with doubt or logistics, it can shake your confidence.

It’s not the logistics you’re afraid of—it’s the fear of not being believed in.

Especially for women, we've been conditioned to seek approval before taking action. So when support isn’t immediate? We retreat. Or worse—we abandon the dream altogether.

But you don’t need approval. You just need to keep going.

Why People React the Way They Do

Let’s name what’s really happening when people question your path:

  • They're projecting their own fears.
    If they wouldn’t feel safe doing it, they assume you shouldn’t either.

  • They don’t get it—because it wasn’t meant for them.
    Your dream came to you, not them. They don’t need to get it.

  • They’re processing.
    Especially logical thinkers—sometimes their questions aren’t criticism, they’re just trying to understand something you already feel.

How to Stay burning bright When People Try to Dim You

You don’t need to fight them. You don’t need to prove anything. But you do need to protect your balloon energy.

1. Let yourself feel the sting

Yes, it hurts. Feel it. Honor it. But don’t let it anchor you.

2. Blow that balloon back up

Reconnect with why you started. Talk to someone who gets it. Reclaim your joy.

3. Validate yourself first

Say it with me: “I don’t owe anyone a business plan for my dream.”

4. Find your expanders

Surround yourself with women who are doing the big scary thing. Who remind you it’s possible. Who don’t flinch when you say “I’m starting a podcast” or “I’m leaving my job to follow my gut.”

5. Protect the spark (if needed)

You don’t have to announce your dream right away. Some dreams need incubation. Share when you’re ready—not when others are.

What to Say When Someone Shares Their Dream

Be the person who reflects excitement—not fear.

Here are a few things you can say:

  • “Wow, you look so lit up—tell me more!”

  • “That’s so you. I love this for you.”

  • “I believe you can do this.”

  • “That sounds so aligned. I’m cheering you on!”

Here’s what not to say (at least not right away):

  • “How will you make money doing that?”

  • “What if it doesn’t work out?”

  • “Are you sure that’s realistic?”

Those questions can come later—once the spark has caught fire.

Reminder:

You were given this dream for a reason. Not everyone will get it—and that’s okay. You don’t need their permission. You just need to keep going.

Let them question. Let them doubt. You’ve got a balloon to reinflate.

Weekly Tarot Pull

This week’s message? The Gazelle (The Fool) and the Raven (The Magician).

👉🏽 Take the leap. Create from the soul. You don’t need the how—you just need the why.

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Full episode transcript

Heidi (00:00)
I really hate it when, it's not even a question, but when people be like, I hope that works out for you. I fucking hate that. For generations, women were shamed for trusting themselves, sensing things before they happen, and believing in their own power. No one encouraged them to embrace it until now. Welcome to Trust Yourself.

Elise AKA Sissy (00:18)
We actually had a really, really warm day yesterday and so we went for a walk, family walk around the block, which, you know, pretty casual, should have been about 15 minutes. The kids decided they wanted to ride their scooters and then my husband, Sean, he also decided to get on a scooter. And so I was the only one freaking left walking, actually walking. Loser. I didn't want to be left in the dust, so I'm like, hey, Harriet.

Heidi (00:41)
Bye!

Elise AKA Sissy (00:46)
Harriet's my oldest daughter. I'm like, Harriet, can I get on the scooter with you? ⁓ She's like, Mom, that's a bad idea. We're going to cry.

Heidi (00:54)
She's not wrong.

Elise AKA Sissy (00:57)
fun. It'll be fun." And I hop on the back and we're going downhill and we're going pretty fast. She's like, Mom, slow down. There's a corner. Slow down. Slow down. Hit the brakes. And I'm like, I'm trying. I'm trying. And we literally, we just crashed so hard into my neighbor's front yard. I tried to do like the tuck and roll because she's in front of me and I don't want to squish her. Yeah. But I landed so hard on my shoulder. I had to text my neighbor later. I'm like, if you have a ring camera,

Heidi (01:13)
Mmm.

Elise AKA Sissy (01:25)
Can you please delete any and all footage from 630 to 645 tonight?

Heidi (01:30)
Don't delete it. Send it to my sister at Trust Yourself Podcast.

Yeah, I need to see that shit I'm so sorry you hurt yourself. Maybe next time you should just get on the hoverboard

Elise AKA Sissy (01:41)
my god.

Jetson that shit. No, but I got back up. It was all okay. We're fine. We brushed ourselves off.

Heidi (01:54)
Harriet, like, told you so, Yeah. She's never not wrong. Right.

Elise AKA Sissy (01:57)
100%. Yep. Typical first born.

But that could be actually a good segue into our episode today because ⁓ brush yourself off and try again.

Heidi (02:13)
dust

it off and try again. yeah. So what are we talking about, Sissy?

Elise AKA Sissy (02:17)
Try again.

Okay, so today we're talking about what to do in those moments when you have a really big dream or you've made a decision that really, really excites you, but then people around you just don't get it. Like maybe they're big or small dreams, like you decided to take an improv class or you decided to change careers, you decided to move across the country, start a podcast. I mean, even actually, even on a daily basis in architecture.

or any creative industry for that matter, ⁓ you have like unique ideas that can get squashed so easily. There's that feeling, ooh, here's how I'm gonna tie it into my scooter story. Okay. There's a feeling of sharing something that lit you up, really got you really giddy like a child on a scooter, right? You're like, woo, flying high. Then you're met with somebody that maybe has a hint of subtle doubt, maybe just silence and.

Bam, the next thing you know, you're flying over your handlebars and you're smashing your face in the dirt. You're literally like grounded in reality.

Heidi (03:24)
Because they were dragging you down.

Elise AKA Sissy (03:29)
Okay, so I'm asking how do we get back up from that and how do we keep going?

Heidi (03:34)
This is timely. This is very timely. feel like since, you know, we just took some giant ass leaps and started this. However, you know, I feel like you've been getting the brunt more than me because people are like, Heidi, change the job. What's new? No. deal.

Elise AKA Sissy (03:49)
⁓

I definitely want to get into that because you've been doing this a lot longer than I have but... ⁓

Heidi (03:55)
Changing jobs.

Job hopping, career changing. Yes, you're right. I am an expert. I am what they call a multi-passionate.

Elise AKA Sissy (04:04)
I love that. I love that phrase much much better. But it is interesting I did look do some research on this and I found a really cool study, but it's not cool. It's sad actually so according to According to the global dreams index survey and this had over 14 countries participating Over half of women worldwide have abandoned their dreams

Heidi (04:16)
It's It's sad.

Elise AKA Sissy (04:30)
And actually in Asia, think this percentage went up to about 82%. That's wild. That's so sad. And then ⁓ there was a Forbes study that went deeper into why they stopped following their dreams. And the number one reason was lack of support, followed by financial pressures, societal pressures and lack of confidence.

Heidi (04:53)
think

that's all rolled into one, really. Like lack of support. It's because your friends, your family don't support you. You don't have the support of the financial support to continue your dream or the societal support. Like it's all about support and yeah, that hits home. It's it's half the

Elise AKA Sissy (05:12)
They're giving up on their dreams because they don't feel supported. And I mean, first of all, when you're following your intuition or something new or different, you're already really vulnerable, right? And then when others question it, it can start to shake your confidence and make you second guess. And you end up shrinking yourself to make those people feel more comfortable, which isn't right. That's so sad.

I feel like this is how I felt recently, but let me know if you also feel the same way. But I think sometimes it's actually harder to tell people your dreams than the actual practical steps needed to achieve those dreams. Like say, trust that money will come in. It's much easier for me to just trust that than to trust me telling my friend that, guess what, I'm going to start a podcast.

For me, that scares the crap out of

Heidi (06:11)
It's so opposite. It's adorable. I'm like telling everybody. I'm telling my hairdresser, my eyebrow waxer. I'm like, yeah, we're going to have a podcast. I'll let you know when it comes out and that's what doing. so proud of you. Yeah. Well, I'm proud of you for finally saying it too.

Elise AKA Sissy (06:25)
It just takes me a little longer. But well, it's because this is very, very new to me. So like recently, I am definitely seeing this in an all new light because I've always felt like I was the quote unquote practical one doing practical things. I have a 401k. I have my bi-weekly paycheck, which I miss. And then now doing this, I've just haven't had to face this sort of, I'll call it quiet scrutiny, if you will.

Heidi (06:55)
It's not always quiet.

Elise AKA Sissy (06:57)
That's true. But you've been going through this way longer than I have. ⁓ Like with your dreams and goals and even like shit, even moving across the country. Like you just go with your gut. You're like, I'm going to do this and I don't care what you say. But tell me about some of the dreams that you've had and maybe some of the things that people have said to you because of it or if anything that's kind of squashed those dreams or made you hesitate at all.

Heidi (07:22)
Yeah, well, I mean, I guess if we think back to when I decided that I was going to move to Maine, so we visited, eons ago, I guess. And the very first time that I came to Portland, Maine, I, within 12 hours, I told, well, I was only dating my husband at the time. And I was like, we're going to live here one day. And he kind of smiles and nods like he does. And I was like, no, no, no, we're going to live here one day. I'm serious.

⁓ And then... And we kept going back for various things. Things just kept leading us back to Portland. And finally, I think he kind of got on board with the idea of moving to Maine, because he is from Iowa. Shout out... Shout out Hawkeyes. And so that was like a big deal for him. But then, he started to see all the cool things about it. It felt like...

Elise AKA Sissy (07:52)
We love you.

Haka is by the way.

Heidi (08:20)
home, the people were very similar to Midwest people. They're just very kind. But no, and then there's seafood, there's ocean, there's mountains. It's beautiful. So there really wasn't a whole lot of convincing that I needed to do. But then when it came time where we were actually moving and it was like telling family and everything, ⁓ my family, our family particularly didn't really say a whole lot only because I think we grew up moving around a whole lot ⁓ as kids. So

staying in one place isn't in our blood. So they weren't super shocked when I was like, I'm moving to Maine. But Ken's family, of course, you know, they get, they weren't nervous or anything. They weren't unsupportive. They just had a lot of questions. Like, why are you moving to Maine? Like, I think that was the main question. And like, I can see how that is such a normal question. Like, why are you moving to Maine? But at that time, like we really didn't have a reason besides that I wanted to.

Like we wanted to. And that answer wasn't good enough for some people. ⁓ Eventually it was, but it is interesting to see like whenever you do something just for you, people don't get it. They don't get it. And they're like, wait, what do you mean you're moving there just because you want to? Like, I'm moving there because I want to.

Elise AKA Sissy (09:42)
Well, because it's your it's not theirs. They don't get it yet. I will say the questions I've been getting since starting this podcast and leaving architecture has been...

Heidi (09:52)
You've

been getting some doozy, let's say.

Elise AKA Sissy (09:57)
You know, in all fairness, people aren't trying to be mean. It's just that sometimes they're unaware of how it can maybe impact my feelings when they say this. But a lot of it is based in security and practicality. And so it's almost always the first question is, well, how do you make money doing a podcast? I mean, honestly, yes. Don't you think Heidi and I have thought about that? But clearly...

We're not doing it for the money right now. That's clearly we're not doing it for the money. And then also they ask like, why would you leave architecture? Like that's such a stable job and you don't know what's going to happen. Like what if this doesn't work out? That's another one. Like what if this doesn't work out? I'm like, oh God, yes, I've already thought about that. What if it doesn't work out? You know what? If it doesn't, it doesn't. I'm going to go back to architecture or go do find something else, you know.

Heidi (10:51)
You know what I also hate in the flip side of that question? I really hate it when— It's not even a question, but when people be like, I hope that works out for you. I fucking hate that. That's like fuel for my fire. I'm like, bitch, watch out. I'm gonna make this shit work now. Like, you say something like that, it's gonna— Yeah, that one gets me.

Elise AKA Sissy (11:11)
I think this is where you and I differ so much. So when I get asked these questions, my gut reaction is always, ⁓ shit, you're right. And that makes me so hesitant to even share more. Or I just want to stop talking about it altogether. Whereas you, feel like Heidi, you're like, this is fuel. Yes, let me show you wrong. You're wrong. I will do it.

Heidi (11:36)
I guess it really does kind of depend on who's saying it though too. Because I will say there are times where I get like a really cool idea of something either for marketing or an idea that I want to do for the business and I'll like run inside and I'll tell my husband and I'm met with like not the level of excitement that I want because I'm like vibing. I'm up here up really high like I'm feeling good. I'm like, I have this great idea. I want to share it and then I share it.

And then because he's similar to you, he's very analytical, it's not like met with an immediate like, ⁓ tell me about it. I'm so excited to hear. It's all like, okay, well, what does this mean? Well, how much does that cost? Well, how are you gonna do this? And it's just all like this logistical questions that ⁓ that makes me feel like a deflated balloon when I go in.

Elise AKA Sissy (12:27)
And

I have talked to you about this before because I do come up, I come across with that, those questions right away too. And guilty myself, you have a great idea, you're super excited, I can feel it. And my gut reaction is, whoa, okay, let me process this. And I'm like, this is just my way to process because you already have this information, you have this quote unquote download, if you will, you got this great idea.

and I've never heard it before, and I'm trying to go through that same process that you got instantly, and I'm like, how does this work? How does this go together? Okay, where did this come from? And what's the outcome? so, you know, just remember that sometimes people need to process it in their own ways. So don't take it too personally. Poor Kent.

Heidi (13:17)
I don't, I try not to, but I still, I still feel, I still feel like a...

Elise AKA Sissy (13:26)
my God.

Heidi (13:28)
deep-lated balloon.

Elise AKA Sissy (13:33)
I mean, okay, that perfect timing, yes. It does take the air out of your balloon quite quickly.

Heidi (13:41)
does,

it does. But I can blow that balloon right up again. you can. I know, like in the moment, it just gives me a little, but it also gives me a time to pause and like really think about it be like, okay, well, maybe there are some good points that you brought up that I need to think about or think through more, but.

Elise AKA Sissy (14:00)
Yeah, I think those questions when people come at it from a practical standpoint, I understand that. I get it. ⁓ There are some questions though, for example, I've been asked this multiple times now. So Elise, you're starting a podcast. Wow. Are you binging Netflix all day? Like, you must have so much free time. Like these assumptions. Yeah. And maybe it's being sarcastic too. But again, that's when...

My balloon's just like, what?

Heidi (14:32)
Yeah, that does suck. I've had people kind of not say specifically that, but basically say stuff like that where it's like, well, what do you do all day then if you just record a podcast and you're good? I'm like, bitch, you don't have a clue what goes into this. The amount of time and work and preparation, not to mention the whole social media side, which by the way, I don't like...

creating content, but I have to now. it's just, yeah, that is something that I've gotten to and it is annoying.

Elise AKA Sissy (15:08)
will say I have worked so much on this podcast with you and I worked late at night, I worked early in the morning and I'm not mad about it. Like it excites me because this is so cool. I'm probably working just as much as I was as an architect, but the difference is I'm not stressing myself over it. I'm actually filling my cup. I'm so excited and any new idea that comes in, I'm just like.

Yes, let's go. This is going to take five hours, but we're going to do it. ⁓

Heidi (15:40)
Which by the way, that kind of reminds me of like when people say, okay, well, how do you make money on a podcast? As the first question or as the first like, Elise, you started a podcast. So how do you make money? Like that is so frustrating because it's like, don't you see how much happier I am as a human being? How much like, you already have less bags under your eyes. And you're welcome. And you haven't even had Botox.

Elise AKA Sissy (16:05)
my god. No, not yet.

Heidi (16:08)
But it's just like, as a society, there is so much pressure still on not necessarily doing something because it makes you happy. It's doing something to pay the bills. And you can do something that makes you happy later or on the side. And I think that it's just sad, but it's like your stat that you talked about. It's sad that people feel like they really just can't

follow their dreams because, well, it wouldn't make money. Well, you can make money doing goddamn anything. Like, seriously, you can sell friggin' worms. Like, you can make anything happen. And whenever you have a dream that is just crazy to some people, it just, I just want everybody to know that you can make it work. And like you were saying, like, you were given that dream for a reason and nobody else was given that dream. And so,

Maybe everybody doesn't understand it or they don't get it. Not right away.

Elise AKA Sissy (17:11)
It is really hard, even when you do have support. It can be a lot of support, but you've got like one person in the corner doubting, and that somehow is so much louder than all of the support you have, and it's scary, and it's terrifying, and it makes you second-guess everything. Stop that.

Heidi (17:30)
Well, it's also kind of like ⁓ with influencers or even people who have like a very strong online presence. It's like you can have a hundred thousand positive comments and then there's one person that gives you a negative comment or a negative review and people can just stew on that. And it's sad, especially when you're doing something that you love and lights you up. Like my friend Ruby, who does the goddess photo shoots, she was telling me at the women's retreat that I went to a few weeks ago,

how she gets all these great comments and people are so supportive of her goddess project where she takes photos of elderly women in nursing homes, she dresses them up as goddesses, they get to play, dress up basically, they feel so good, they look so amazing. the fact, first of all, the fact that people even do any sort of negative comments on something like that is just disgusting, first of all. But...

Of course she reads them and then she'll like see one and she says, you know, all these positive ones, but you get one negative one and you just kind of still, it's still, it still weighs. It really weighs heavy on you. Where's that? Yeah. Yeah.

Elise AKA Sissy (18:35)
balloon again the balloon sound

Heidi (18:40)
Deflated balloon. that didn't work. No. It's so loud.

There it is. That works.

Elise AKA Sissy (18:54)
All right. Okay, we should probably.

Heidi (18:58)
Last one, promise.

That is it. Okay, good.

Elise AKA Sissy (19:05)
⁓ Okay, so I'd like to dive into like, first of all, why the hell do people do this in the first place? Because there's a reason, right? Maybe they're not trying to be overtly and explicitly mean or cruel ⁓ intentionally, but I don't, I think that people tend to do this or question you or have a little doubt in your fears because it's so easy for them to project their own fears.

when they question your dreams.

Heidi (19:38)
Well, and they do it subconsciously, I think, because it's almost like, ⁓ you know, maybe there's a part of them that's not healed and that's the part that kind of comes out and says that. And it's something that's totally subconscious because we don't know what we don't know. So we don't know what parts of us aren't healed yet until something like that comes out. think a lot of people don't even realize what they do.

Elise AKA Sissy (20:01)
Yeah. Well, and we're so conditioned to view logic and security as more valid than joy and purpose. So that instantly comes to your mind before the fun stuff. Like, ⁓ clearly she's excited to do this, but has she thought about a social security or 401k and ⁓ health benefits? And yeah, actually I have. But let's look at...

our priorities a little bit differently.

Heidi (20:32)
That's the societal conditioning and the societal expectations of those priorities. It's money over anything. Like you're not gonna love your job or there's no great job. All those things that you hear even growing up of like, know, do what you love on the side or do, you know, you can't, I don't know.

Elise AKA Sissy (20:53)
I did

get that too, like, can't you just do that as a side hobby? Well, yeah, we did try it. It's going to take

Heidi (21:00)
10 years to your There's so much more work than I realized. so obviously a lot of people realize because yeah, when you, you kind of had this ⁓ analogy yesterday too, like football players or professional athletes, like people like, you just show up and you play a game. Like, you just show up and you record a podcast. Like hell no, there is so much more that goes into it.

Elise AKA Sissy (21:23)
Yeah, which I love. I love, by the way, I love that we're learning it. Yeah, so I feel like people tend to do that, tend to question, project their own fears, tend to steer towards questions on security. And also, like we talked about earlier, just their way to process, right? Like if you don't really understand it, we're gonna ask questions and like, what about this? What about that? It's just processing. But I think the most important...

Heidi (21:27)
Yeah, it has been fun.

Elise AKA Sissy (21:53)
thing to remember is that these dreams are yours. It's your intuitive downloads. It came to you. It was meant for you. So of course, they're not going to get it. They didn't get the message because it wasn't meant for them. It was meant for you. And also intuition and these bold ideas, they don't always come with a five-year plan, but that doesn't make it any less powerful. I don't think anyway. Yeah, it might make it more terrifying, but not less powerful.

Heidi (22:21)
I agree. Yeah, or you may only get like the five-year plan and you don't know how to get there, but you're like, I have this end goal that I know I want to get to and I'm going to figure it out along the way. And people are kind of, they're going to question that though, too. Like, what do you mean you're going to do that big crazy thing? And it's like, I don't know. I just feel like I need to do that. And I'm just going to take these little steps until I get there.

Elise AKA Sissy (22:44)
Yeah. So Heidi, what have you been doing when people tend to deflate your dream balloon? Like what can, what are some things that you like to do when somebody just stomps in your parade?

Heidi (22:57)
Well, I get sad for a minute. I allow myself to feel sad. Good. I allow that balloon to deflate, but then I blow that fucker back up. And I'm like, wait a second. No, this is good. This is right. And then I go and I keep telling more and more people that I know are in my group that are kind of doing the same thing. So ⁓ here in Maine, there is the Maine Women in Business.

which is amazing. It's just all female entrepreneurs. They meet once a month. It's fabulous. And it's just a great way to connect with other female entrepreneurs who are hustling just like we are. And they get it. They get the struggle. They get the doubts. They get the criticism that they get from other people too. So finding your core group of people who are doing things that you're wanting to do or doing things already that you want to do or thinking about it.

Elise AKA Sissy (23:55)
And they believe in you. It's like you found your expanders, right? They expand you. I feel like everyone needs that. So it might not be directly next door. It might not be in your house, but just get out there and find those expanders. I love that from early on. I feel like I was really selective with sharing who my story is with. Like I was protecting that spark while it was still growing.

Heidi (24:01)
Everyone needs us.

You were.

Elise AKA Sissy (24:22)
But you're very opposite. You're like, no, share, share, share.

Heidi (24:25)
Well, I think that's just the difference of how we expand. know, I expand by speaking it aloud. I expand by telling more people, because the more people I tell, the more accountability I'm giving myself and being like, okay, I've told all these people, now I've got to make it work. Whereas you're like, okay, let me build it secretly behind scenes. And then when I'm ready, I'll release it into the wild, which is fine. Neither way is right or wrong.

Elise AKA Sissy (24:51)
I've also been finding that I have been trying really hard. Anytime these questions come up, I don't judge the person that's asking the questions. But first I try to validate myself first. So I remind myself of why I even followed this dream. ⁓ And I'm reminding myself that it's going to take some time for them to catch up to this brilliant idea we have. So it's just a new mindset. Got to lift myself up and...

Heidi (25:12)
Obviously.

Elise AKA Sissy (25:20)
put on that Teflon coat sometimes.

Heidi (25:23)
Yeah, be a duck. Let that water roll off your back.

Elise AKA Sissy (25:26)
Is

there anything else you do?

Heidi (25:29)
⁓ What else do I do? Well, I actually, ⁓ got my eyebrows waxed today, so I'm feeling really good. ⁓ shout out Betty from Ulta. She does the best. Betty. We love Betty. But she actually told me something that made me feel good today, because I was talking to her about this. I was telling her how, you know, ⁓ over holidays or over anytime that you're gathering with friends and family and sometimes, you know,

the feedback or what people say, just kind of deflates your balloon. And I was kind of confiding into her how you felt a little bit of that deflation this weekend. And I was like, well, I didn't feel any of that because nobody cares because they're all just assuming, yeah, Heidi's off doing something crazy again. And Betty, sweet Betty says, well, maybe it's just because they just know you're going to crush it because you crush everything you do. And so they don't have to worry about you. I was like, Betty, am, I am taking that.

And I am keeping that with me today because that is a great mindset. And so either way, if you get the criticism or if you don't get the criticism, you can turn it into something positive. And I loved that.

Elise AKA Sissy (26:37)
That's beautiful, Betty. Thank you. Thanks, Betty. I want to hug Betty.

Heidi (26:41)
She's the best. She's seriously the best. I'm going to take you there when you come next time.

Elise AKA Sissy (26:45)
Yeah, and maybe she can do my eyebrows. I've just been hiding them under my bangs lately.

Heidi (26:49)
Yeah.

Elise AKA Sissy (26:52)
Okay, I do want to kind of take a step back though and think about what can we say when somebody else confides in us about a dream that they might have. So how can we be better dream holders for others, if you will? So maybe thinking about like, Heidi, what's the worst and the best thing that people have said to you? What should people say and what should they not say?

Heidi (27:19)
I'm such an energy person that I'm just like, please just match somebody's energy. If they come in hot and they're like excited, you better bump up your energy to match them and then some and just be super excited with them. I may be speaking directly to my husband when I'm saying this too, but like match their energy. No, he already knows this. We've talked about it. He's doing much better, but you know, match their energy, be excited. ⁓

Elise AKA Sissy (27:38)
Beating today.

I

put a caveat on that though? You don't have to be excited yourself, but maybe say like, that's amazing. see you, like you look and sound so lit up about this. Like I see your excitement. You don't have to be that excited, like tell them like, I see how excited this makes you. That's awesome.

Heidi (28:05)
That would feel so good. That would feel so good if somebody said that. Or even just like, tell me more. That sounds really exciting. The tell me more is something that like makes me feel like you're interested or engaged at least.

Elise AKA Sissy (28:17)
Ooh, I love this for you. Tell me more. But not in a sarcastic, like, Alexis Rose voice. Like, yeah.

Heidi (28:23)
love this for Love that. I love that for you. I do actually say I love that for you a lot. But anyways, I think the what not to do is start asking questions that... I mean honestly any questions.

Elise AKA Sissy (28:27)
I love this from you.

Yes, you can ask just a couple questions, but maybe not the first thing.

Heidi (28:47)
Yeah, not like, so how are you going to do that? Or what's the goal for that? what's the... are you... Does that cost money? What do we need to do for this? Any of those types of questions just feel almost... To me, feels like targeted, you're breaking down my dream.

Elise AKA Sissy (29:07)
Or it sounds like they're questioning whether or not you can do it. Like, is that even practical? That doesn't sound very realistic,

Heidi (29:14)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I guess the good is just to be open and join in the excitement.

Elise AKA Sissy (29:23)
Yeah, I will reiterate, don't jump into logistics, don't question the reality immediately because 99.9 % of the time, the person that has this dream has already thought about those things and yes, they are worried about those things, but they want to just tell you the idea. So I think, yes, reflect their excitement. You don't have to feel excited yourself, but show them that you see it. Support their dream energy.

even if you don't know all the details, say, don't know everything about this, but I believe in you. And that sounds like, that sounds so like something you would do. Sounds like an aligned move, you know? And maybe stay, stay curious, not critical. So you can ask questions, but like, what inspired you to do that? Or, wow, that's so cool. Where do you see this in like a year from now? But not critical or even,

making it about you. Like, I thought about doing that too, but I never did because of X, Y, Z. that's probably why you shouldn't too, you know?

Heidi (30:28)
Yeah. Well, that's like the unspoken part that we take on to that when somebody says like, I thought about doing that, but I didn't. And then you're like, okay, well, why should I be not, should I not be doing this?

Elise AKA Sissy (30:39)
Exactly, yeah. And I will say my favorite comment that I've gotten so far from one of my best friends, actually a couple of my really, really good friends have said this to me, is like, they affirm this bravery and they'll say like, wow, I know this is not easy, but you are so brave that, you know, thank you for sharing this with me and thanks for trusting me with this ⁓ dream. And it takes guts to follow your heart. I really admire that.

That to me, like, that means the world. Like just showing somebody that you support them and understand that this isn't easy. You don't have to say anything else.

Heidi (31:18)
Just that. Yeah, you really don't. Actually, we prefer it if you don't. Just don't. Just stop. It's good. But also, you know, how you even said how, you know, we probably have thought about all these logistical things, but as you're saying that, I was thinking about some of mine. like, some of mine, I don't have any of that shit figured out, but I'm just like, I'll figure it out. Like if somebody...

You know, like sometimes you just have an idea or a dream and maybe you don't have it fully figured out yet, but then when people start asking all these questions, like, well, I haven't figured that out yet, but I'm going to. And then it makes you feel like dumb for not knowing it almost.

Elise AKA Sissy (31:53)
You trust that you will. You will eventually figure it out. yourself. I love this conversation. I think it's really needed. I just, my big takeaway from all of this is that you don't need, you don't owe anyone a business plan for your dream. If it's aligned for you, that's reason enough. And don't ever shrink your joy to fit someone else's fears. That's all.

Heidi (32:21)
Yeah. Yeah.

Mic drop. think mine, ⁓ I actually really am glad that I had this lovely balloon here with me today because it's almost like a good physical reminder that I can always reinflate my balloon. if somebody...

Elise AKA Sissy (32:36)
balloons up on our desks and just remind us.

Heidi (32:39)
yes, yes. So my balloon is going to live here. I'm going to name her. I'm going to let you know what I name her later. ⁓ But yeah, like when people deflate your balloon, for whatever reason, it doesn't have to stay deflated. You can always blow your balloon back up and be like, you know what? Nope, this is good. I'm going to keep doing this. It feels good. If it feels good, then I'm doing it. So I'm to have a balloon buddy.

Elise AKA Sissy (33:05)
⁓ I love this. I love all this stuff. mean, we, Heidi and I know this is all so scary, but we also know it's life changing. And so we're here for this. We're here for you. If you are going through anything, if you have a dream that you're thinking about doing or hesitant to do, or maybe you've already done it, but you're getting some scrutiny, we're here for you, girl. Let us know.

Heidi (33:29)
So

yeah, if you're in it right now and you're going through it and you have a story about trusting yourself or how hard it is to trust yourself, please send us your story. We would love to start reading stories on our episodes. That would be so fun. So send your story to stories at trustyourselfpodcast.com and the link is in the show notes. And also if you have some big scary goals, but you're still not quite sure on how to take that first step.

please reach out to us and book an SOS call, which is all about seeking out solutions. So Cissy and I will help you. We'll do an energy read. We do tarot. We also tap into spirit guides and speak with loved ones. But we really give you a clear picture on what your next steps should be. And we also teach you how to tap into your own intuition so you can start listening and turning up that volume. So link in the show notes, check out our website, SOS call.

Elise AKA Sissy (34:21)
Yes, and speaking of tarot, this is going to be one of our first times we are really excited. We decided that it'd be probably pretty fun for our sister group here to do a tarot poll for the week. And so we're going to do our little intuitive nudge or a gentle message from the universe to carry with you this week. And so Heidi's going to be your guide and pull a card and, you know, take what resonates with you and trust what speaks to you.

Heidi (34:49)
So hopefully this isn't super loud when I'm gonna shuffle these real quick. what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna ⁓ use my deck that is Spirit Song Tarot Deck, and it's my animal deck. And so I feel like there is going to be a animal energy that we need to ⁓ embrace this week. Ooh, this is awesome. Okay, so I got the gazelle, which is number zero, which is also the fool.

in traditional tarot. But this is all about adventure and potential and just taking those leaps. This is so perfect. I love that this one came out. Seriously, The Fool is all about taking leaps and trusting yourself and just going for it no matter what anybody else says. The Gazelle just leaps. my gosh. And then the second one that came out was number one, The Magician, which is all about creation.

and willpower, and this one is displayed as a raven too. So the traveler and the magician, AKA the fool and the magician, it's all about creating and going for it. And that could not have been better. I'm so glad that those came out.

Elise AKA Sissy (35:55)
⁓

I love that Heidi. I think Tarot is so cool. yes, take what resonates with you, but remember that you already have the answers within you and don't hesitate to follow that nudge.

Heidi (36:08)
So

can I do one more because I got excited? ⁓ yes. No, I have an Oracle card, an Oracle deck that I want to pull for just the week ahead for our sisters and the energy. and we got love and compassion. So go out there, spread love, take your leaps and trust yourself and start creating.

Elise AKA Sissy (36:31)
That's beautiful. And until next time, it's your move, sis.

Heidi (36:36)
Make it count. Bye.
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